Hi!!!!

[A Girl Beyond Masks]

Hi!!!!

I'm new in this whole message bored business, so I'm a little lost... I guess it'll be best if I introduced myself first. So here we go... I'm 15 and I'm in 10th grade. I'm jewish, and I live in Boston MA. I love sports, including fencing, basketball, soccer, swiming, horse back riding, dancing... I used to play the piano, but I quit. Um... I love reading, writing, and History! That's it for now, I think... Bye

p.s. I wish I were in Israel now... I hate living in the states!

 

[A Raider Gone Rogue]

Welcome to our humble forum

On Behalf of the inofficial welcoming cometee I gladly welcome you to join us. I must admit I find myself almost speechless by your P.S.... The states are so much better than Israel right now... trust me... Rogue, a Celtics fan

 

[A Girl Beyond Masks]

Why thank you

You've made me feel very welcomed! Thanks!

About the states and Israel: let me tell you something, people in the states are these selfish basterds, who care only about money, and the way they look in the eyes of other people around them, that is if those people are qualified for the standarts. Otherwise they won't blink for people in a lower class! The American people are cold people! You could never (rarelly) trust them, here it's every man for his own! One more thing- the Americans are so damn fake! They could be smiling at you with the sweetes smile, and then go sleep with your boy/girlfriend! I must say though, that not all are like this, but there sure are many who are! If when you said that America is better then Israel right now, you ment to say it's safer, you are wrong! In America, a normal human being could'nt go walking around after dark, which is around 5 P.M! We are trapped in our houses unless we have some way of transportation, private! Most people do have that, but what I wanted to emphasise, is that we can't walk freely , and we're dependent on things that only money can provide!

 

[strawberry gashes]

...give me a break

Do you really think Israelis aren't all of the above? Well, I wouldn't exactly say they're cold, but.. they are fake and hypocritical and all that jazz.

 

[A Raider Gone Rogue]

furthermore...

Israelis are naturally hot headed, rude, shameless... and mostly everything you said about the states... Also Israelis don't give a damn about a person's feelings .... And Israelis start talking about grey sweaters and the Red Sox (It's all about the Giants, baby)... LOL Rogue in the middle of the night

 

[edlessme]

umm.. i resent that last one!!

i dont think isrealies dont care about eachothers feelings. i('d like to) think that were warmer than most... cause... we are... we help eaaachother out MUCH more... we know eachother much more... theres a REAL feeling of patritiotism in this country, of brotherhood. as you can see. this is kinda touchy for me. im the most conformist idiot on this matter.. and i kinda am proudly.. ive seen other countries.. i love this one, and this one alone. for alllllll its shittiness...

 

[Suiren]

I disagree.

Maybe Israelis –do- help each other more than others, but they also make everything their business. In what other countries would a person walk to a young mother and start “advising” (meaning: making -her- baby –his- business) about methods of childcare, for example? Or telling her “give the kid a sweater, it’s cold outside”? None. Israel is just some kind of a huge fecking Kibbutz, in which everything is everyone’s business. People here are just as intolerant as in any other place, but they, unlike cold Europeans, show their intolerance. If you walk in the street wearing something that is slightly off mainstream, slightly different (and I definitely don’t mean the “Frikim” people, who are as mainstream as any average brand wearing bimbo)- people have no problem walking right into your face and making your taste their business. I find this crude, annoying and extremely Israeli. People here simply cannot live and let live. No, they will live and make everyone else live just like them. And the Israeli kids? Hey, they (“we”?) might not be as shallow as the Americans, and have a slightly bigger interest in the world around them, but eventually- it all comes down to what cloths THEY want. And what brand new pop star they like. If you can read Hebrew, you can see what our youth is like in the message above, one by the “shleyerit”. Shallow, crude, and simply disgusting. Sorry, but that’s what it’s like. I’m not saying all youth is like that- definitely not, but I’m saying a main portion of it is, indeed, that bad. Endlessme is right; Israel’s best ARE indeed leaving. Why? Because in a country that just keeps walking with it’s head into the wall (ugh, I’m tired and can’t think of the correct expression. Rough, you find it!). The future of this country is not very bright. And not because of the bombings, or the political situation- the future of this country is at risk because of improper education. In a country that values the building of illegal settlements and the promotion of political causes over education- there is no future. The teachers here get no money and no respect. In a job as hard as teaching, one has to have –some- reward, isn’t it so? But no. The intelligent “human material” here would go to a job in which he is respected, and from which he can earn a decent living. Good “human material” does not go to teaching anymore, and that results in a poor, poor youth. *shrug* I lost my train of thought, so I better run along now. ​

 

[A Girl Beyond Masks]

ooh... sorry

It seems like I've touched a sensitive point here... I didn't mean to make anybody upset or anything... I guess I've expressed my feelings a little too hurshly. I agree that there are some bad sides to everything,but the thing is, I'm sick and tired of the states, of the atitude of the place and people! I think it's actually a nice thing if in Israel people make everything their beezwax. I mean, in Israel (from what I've understood) people come right up to you and tell you what they think or whatever, but here, instead of someone telling someone else to put a sweater on his kid, he would go to a third someone and tell him how horrible of a parent the second someone is! Or if it's the clothes thing, people would just go and tell the whole world that that particular person is a tastless person, who has'nt a clue in clothes! I can't explain it too well, it's just the way I feel! I just hope someone understood what I was trying to say... About the imigration, I'd think those people run away from Israel 'cause they live in Israel! They are sick of people acting the way they do in Israel, and they don't see, or even like the fakeness in the U.S.A! All I know right now, is that I can't stand this country, and wish I were somewere else! -depressed me

 

[strawberry gashes]

...again

I applaud your Zionist tendencies, but.. people are the same everywhere.

 

[strawberry gashes]

סוודרים אפורי=סטייה מצדי...

I think my mentioning the Red Sox is a direct product of my being American. lol. Israelis are on the whole a bunch of blind, impulsive idiots. There are exceptions.. there are amazing people.. but I see no difference between the sheep in Israel and the sheep in America. Everyone's always repeating somebody else's ludicrous theory about the Arabs here.. But in America it's newspaper articles like "Reading, Writing and Body Waxing; A Back-to-School List for the Image-Conscious Teenager" I think I am a patriot. I really am. I care about Israel a whole lot more than other people I know. I have a social conscience.

 

[strawberry gashes]

...?do I know you from somewhere

Dude, you really should wish that. I mean, you live in la-la-land, abode of the Red Sox (I do hope you're not a fan) and Cinnamon Altoids. The Jewish American Youth should come here, where it's happenin'. Ermm, let's discuss gray sweaters and emancipation.

 

[A Girl Beyond Masks]

You just might!

Well I kinda am a fan... why do you wish I weren't a fan?? don't tell me we've got a yankie here! And yes, Cinamon Altoids...... What a glorious invention!

Gray sweaters?? what about Y.V? I think he might just be a little more interesting.... Ooh.. I just noticed I use the word " might" alot... Hope you peeps don't mind it too much!

-Me

 

[strawberry gashes]

...that settles it

.You're my first convert. You're using my philosophical theory ::Stop being perky. ::tired

 

[A Girl Beyond Masks]

Is it true?

Could it be?? Have I found my one and only soulmate??

 

[strawberry gashes]

.no, dear, I don't think you have

 

[A Girl Beyond Masks]

Awww... And I thought I have!../images/Emo153.gif

 

[edlessme]

welcomes,shmelcomes and me butting

in again... ive been expecting somone like you (all my life..)... to find his way to this loveable, cuddely hellhole we intervinuslly call home. (and as you can see.. my spelling sux) so.. welcome.. and... by the way.. good thing.. you wanting to come here... the states does suck... i mean... you can live a hell of a life.. but americans ARE probably the most juvinile people on the globe. but dont get the wrong idea... first of all, backstabbing,cheating,phone(ism.. iguess)they all exist... some on a bigger scale... and dont think that isrealies are as innocent as sheep with real glossy eyes... they suck as well.. we got some of the worlds biggest scumbags here... bigtime... as a person who lived there a couple of years ago let me tell you this, if you live there for a long time you become an american.. (even if you dont notice it) and... itll be weird for you when you come back (or just come.. i didnt really figure out if your an isrealy originally). so... i think the smart thing for you to hope for is that you can just finish up with school (prefarably even a few degrees) and THEN come back here... like we say here in the town where i live... rosh shakkkkeeeeeeeeeettttttt.... what isreal needs right now is good man power, because this country's best is immigrating away from it. we need people like you who love this place, who love our great people and are willing to sacrifice some things for these ideals. but you shouldnt have to "suffer" alllll the shit we have to put up with now. your just a kid right? so what the heck. finish school there... go to the jewish scouts, make mostely isrealy friends, then come back here, and then, when your ready to put up with the worlds most deeply disturbed country, come here and show the world what your made of!. and have some humus too! so.. welcome to our dear forum.. and i promice you the above wont happen again.

 

[strawberry gashes]

יאללה, מי בא להנהיג מהפכה?

He's right. Go do your thing and then come here with your yeshiva boyfriend or something. That's the newest American trend, ain't it? (they're playing Stairway to Heaven on the radio.. they never do that.. so.. it's a celebratory occasion) Americans are ridiculously shallow and euphoric. All you have to do is stay there for half a year or so before becoming just like them. It's a very closed society over there in America.. you either have to adapt or, I don't know, what do you do if you don't adapt and/or conform? Move? Live over the internet? Become a completely detached loner? שליחויות suck.

 

[A Raider Gone Rogue]

Make my day

And tell me... if Israel's so much better than the states than why is the immigration/emigration rate points otherwise? So many israelis RUN AWAY to the states and not so much americans come here to replace them... Yes... I agree that the american society is childish, detached, cold, selfish and whatnot... but the States enjoy one thing that Israel can only dream of... The states are stable - both economically and diplomatically... Mind that being the strongest kid in school is always a good social status and the american economy, while a bit fluctuating lately, is a strong and firmly based machine... As for Israel's diplomatic status... If the US is the Strongest kid in school, Israel is the Latino - hotheaded, able to physically defend himself but hated by most of the school... Gosh... I'm starting to like these school boys metaphores.... As for Israel's social status and economic stability... I was born in 1981, the chineese year of the Rat... I recognize a sinking ship when I see one... In addition for hitting a number of violent ice bergs, the Captain is busy fucking the 1st mate's wife and every one of the able seamen onboard is busy in stuffing the life boats with stolen valuables... Rogue speaks metaphores

 

[strawberry gashes]

.answer me this

Since when have human beings been known for staying to fight instead of taking the easy way out? Since when have they been known to bypass opportunities for wealth, even if they have to sacrifice their nationality as a price? The ship may be in turmoil, but it is not sinking. The first mate's wife's lovechild may grow up to save it.. if he doesn't pack up and flee, leaving his brethren to solve problems they are not competent enough to solve and don't really care to (because THEY'VE got riches, where the fuck is the problem?). There is no MEANING in America, no sense of belonging. It's just a haven.. a haven for the privileged. But what of the tired, the poor and the hungry? Please don't burst my bubble. I'd like to keep my faith in the human race.