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דעתו של חברנו יורם בלומאן על ההפרטה
דעתו של חברנו יורם בלומאן על ההפרטה
כדאי לקרוא את דעותיו. כמובן שלא כולם יסכימו לכל מילה... אני מביא כאן את מכתבו כלשונו: בבקשה: Hello Evyatar, I was not very pleased to see what I would call an ill considered opinion of bus privatisation in Israel. [I am being very polite- I considered using the term 'bullshit' but I refrained!] So, I have a few comments for you. Before I do, attached is a photo of a Neoplan taken in HK in the twilight. the camera is DSLR which comes to it's own under such conditions. the bus is on the move. The Neoplans are popular in HK, where the climate is far more demanding than in Israel. a good measurement is that KMB have 160 of those and have ordered another batch.. enjoy and you may publish it on the net. credit due to Gary Tang who took the photo yesterday in HK. Now... I Think I explained before how up to 1985, there was a monopoly called London Transport [LT]which controlled bus operation in London. It existed since 1933 in various forms. Of course a whole generation of workers drivers engineers loved and revered LT, and so did the bus fans. [officially there are 2500 bus enthusiasts or fans in Lodnon-all members of LOTS, but there are many who are not memebers of any bus society]. Anyway, in 1986, when privatisation started, many enthusiasts expressed the same sort of sentiments you and some other people on Tapuz expressed: namely that LT is the best, the service levels will deterorate, new operators are cowboys, cheap and nasty, old buses are used, LT employees will loose their jobs and the public will suffer. Looking back to those happy days [when I was younger of course] , I must recall that LT presided over falling level of passanger usage of buses, falling revenue and high fares, and a constant decline in the nubmer of buses scheduled for service- same like Egged. Service levels were really constracted for the benefit of the staff in LT and not passnagers. i can spend hours describing in details some of the service anomalities that were around. Since the model used in Israel is a carbon copy of the model used in Lodnon, it would be useful to look back now at those days and see what has actually happend as opposed to what everyone predicted will happen way back. 1. many operators came on to the scene. some used new buses some used second hand buses. Costs to the public were cut, services in general at least remained as they were before the routes were offered for tender, and in many cases improved. 2. many of the new companies were small and actually run the services far better than LT ever did. many of the staff came from LT, and actually earned more wages, as the companies did not have such a vast back office operation to support and pay for. The comapnies had fewer routes to look after and did it extemely well. 3. a few of the companies were really bad, and they went bunkrapt or taken over- 5 cases in 1986-2003. In all cases, other bus companies came to the rescue. 4. [2] was far more common than [3] if traffic conditions are bad and buses are delayed, the service is unreliable, regardless of which company operates the service! 5. wages in the industry fell. I predict that Egged and Dan wages will fall, as they did in London with LT buses. this will reduce costs. 6. The companies were given some freedom to implement new initiatives- express routes, day tickets, special passes, which were of benefit to the passanger. 7. For the bus fans, it was extremely interesting; plenty of buses in dif colours and a real variation. Celebrate it! document it! photo it! this is histroy in the making! do not ignore it! 8. The system of awarding contacts on costs alone does not work in the long term as eventually the initial savings on the existing monopolies works through the system, and the service levels begin to deteriorate [started to be noticable in 1991]. 9. Therefore the system here was changed in 1999 to tender awards on quality and costs. It so far made a real impact. 10. No one can claim that Egged Dan or London Tranpsort are the best in the world. On which criteria? I have no idea. KMB in HK are very good; the whole operation of over 4000 buses is run without any public subsidies and is very profitable. that's a good criteria. 11. LT of old is now called TfL- not really the same thing but... they operate buses- under the name of East Thames buses. their performence is in the lower league of quality indicator. We all *hope* they will not run more services. In general- wait and see! over time privatisation here increased the number of passangers and improved services. True, the criteria for tender awarding had to be changed, but, the current system enjoys an annual increase of passanger use of around 8-9% ! and, I realise that Israel is not the same as Lodnon [I hear it only too often as an excuse! rubbish!] Regards Yoram. _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
דעתו של חברנו יורם בלומאן על ההפרטה
כדאי לקרוא את דעותיו. כמובן שלא כולם יסכימו לכל מילה... אני מביא כאן את מכתבו כלשונו: בבקשה: Hello Evyatar, I was not very pleased to see what I would call an ill considered opinion of bus privatisation in Israel. [I am being very polite- I considered using the term 'bullshit' but I refrained!] So, I have a few comments for you. Before I do, attached is a photo of a Neoplan taken in HK in the twilight. the camera is DSLR which comes to it's own under such conditions. the bus is on the move. The Neoplans are popular in HK, where the climate is far more demanding than in Israel. a good measurement is that KMB have 160 of those and have ordered another batch.. enjoy and you may publish it on the net. credit due to Gary Tang who took the photo yesterday in HK. Now... I Think I explained before how up to 1985, there was a monopoly called London Transport [LT]which controlled bus operation in London. It existed since 1933 in various forms. Of course a whole generation of workers drivers engineers loved and revered LT, and so did the bus fans. [officially there are 2500 bus enthusiasts or fans in Lodnon-all members of LOTS, but there are many who are not memebers of any bus society]. Anyway, in 1986, when privatisation started, many enthusiasts expressed the same sort of sentiments you and some other people on Tapuz expressed: namely that LT is the best, the service levels will deterorate, new operators are cowboys, cheap and nasty, old buses are used, LT employees will loose their jobs and the public will suffer. Looking back to those happy days [when I was younger of course] , I must recall that LT presided over falling level of passanger usage of buses, falling revenue and high fares, and a constant decline in the nubmer of buses scheduled for service- same like Egged. Service levels were really constracted for the benefit of the staff in LT and not passnagers. i can spend hours describing in details some of the service anomalities that were around. Since the model used in Israel is a carbon copy of the model used in Lodnon, it would be useful to look back now at those days and see what has actually happend as opposed to what everyone predicted will happen way back. 1. many operators came on to the scene. some used new buses some used second hand buses. Costs to the public were cut, services in general at least remained as they were before the routes were offered for tender, and in many cases improved. 2. many of the new companies were small and actually run the services far better than LT ever did. many of the staff came from LT, and actually earned more wages, as the companies did not have such a vast back office operation to support and pay for. The comapnies had fewer routes to look after and did it extemely well. 3. a few of the companies were really bad, and they went bunkrapt or taken over- 5 cases in 1986-2003. In all cases, other bus companies came to the rescue. 4. [2] was far more common than [3] if traffic conditions are bad and buses are delayed, the service is unreliable, regardless of which company operates the service! 5. wages in the industry fell. I predict that Egged and Dan wages will fall, as they did in London with LT buses. this will reduce costs. 6. The companies were given some freedom to implement new initiatives- express routes, day tickets, special passes, which were of benefit to the passanger. 7. For the bus fans, it was extremely interesting; plenty of buses in dif colours and a real variation. Celebrate it! document it! photo it! this is histroy in the making! do not ignore it! 8. The system of awarding contacts on costs alone does not work in the long term as eventually the initial savings on the existing monopolies works through the system, and the service levels begin to deteriorate [started to be noticable in 1991]. 9. Therefore the system here was changed in 1999 to tender awards on quality and costs. It so far made a real impact. 10. No one can claim that Egged Dan or London Tranpsort are the best in the world. On which criteria? I have no idea. KMB in HK are very good; the whole operation of over 4000 buses is run without any public subsidies and is very profitable. that's a good criteria. 11. LT of old is now called TfL- not really the same thing but... they operate buses- under the name of East Thames buses. their performence is in the lower league of quality indicator. We all *hope* they will not run more services. In general- wait and see! over time privatisation here increased the number of passangers and improved services. True, the criteria for tender awarding had to be changed, but, the current system enjoys an annual increase of passanger use of around 8-9% ! and, I realise that Israel is not the same as Lodnon [I hear it only too often as an excuse! rubbish!] Regards Yoram. _________________________________________________________________ Get Hotmail on your mobile phone http://www.msn.co.uk/msnmobile --------------------------------------------------------------------------------