i need help

OrgazmaBoy69

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../images/Emo7.gif i need help

people i dont know whats going on with me sometime's i prefer boys and sometime's girls im really confuse cuz of that its the only thing that really bothering me and cuz of that i have problems in my house and in every other place i dont think i wanna be gay but my heart dont think like that im now in a place that no one can really help me cuz im not in israel I THOUGHT THAT IF I WONT BE WITH GAY'S AND LESBIAN ITS WILL HELP AND ITS WILL GO AWAY BUT ITS NOT IM REALLY desparet already cuz of that you got to help me thanx
 

resputin

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Dear Lad,

I don't reckon much, that If you'd be in Israel, and you'd be gay, you'll get much help then you are now. It's sadding, to hear you have household problems, but I reckon you should separate between the two- The inner problem, of your sexuality, and the problems at home. If I remember correctly, you're approximately 16 years old? 17? Well, in that age, it's likely to still have doubts from one another. While people know for fact, and sure of their sexuality, you're not- But I think that "go with the flow" is the rightest answer. Why? Because you can't get up in the morning and be all like "okay, Im Straight today", why? Because we all know it's not that easy, If possible. Still I don't think you should be torn apart by your own mind, and your sexuality- If you're Bisexual, Or if you're Gay, you still are *something*, so why go banging your head up the wall? Let time do it's self. You might be in far NY, and we're here, in gray Israel, -That doesn't nesecrely means that you're alone, Me myself, and I sure plenty of people in here will be glad to be at your service, all you have to do, Is message us.
 

OrgazmaBoy69

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../images/Emo9.gif thanx i really appreciate that

i came here and now im in a religious family (my Dad's family) and they talk sometime's about this kind of things and they say "Hashem Yerachem Al Kol Aima Yehudia" (about the gay kids stuff) i dont know what i gonna do while ii was in israel i fellt more gay and i been with guy's and i was hanging out with gay's and lesbian people its was really fun to be with them and i felt much comfortable with them and here im allways with st8 people and i dont like it i know that my perents will not like this stuff and they both kind of know about that cuz i been with my big sis friend's (gay' friends) and they tell her all about the things i did and after that my perend found out about that and i said that i did it only one time and it was nothing and that i dont know if im gay or not but everytime i have problems at homemy dad ask me if its about the sexuality and im say that its not about that i really dont know what to do cuz i dont really have someone to talk with him about that and its really hard
 

resputin

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Okay,

Sweetheart, about your dad's religious family, we both know that you can't really do a thing about it. They're grown in a certain environment, with certain rules and regulations- and what can you do, Being gay=Normal isn't quite one of them. Still, you live under their roof, at their houses- And dear, whether you like it or not Their rules. Play it safe for now, so they won't pick on that. If they will, you must come to the conclusion, that you can't change them, as much as they can't change you- and as it is now, *you* depend on them- not otherwise, so again, you're quite forced to play by their rules, yet keep an image of resemblance to yourself and stick to it- Don't lose yourself, in order to "Play their game". As well as I know, there are gay people abroad, just like here you just need to "sort them out", I believe it's not that hard. Besides, what's wrong with hanging out with straight people? Sexuality is the last thing you should put as a quality for friendship- Well, In my eyes at least. Don't you reckon? I think you and your dad (where's the mother's P.O.V. on the matter?) are in a special need to have "The talk" when you explain him exactly what's connected, and not connected, to the whole idea of you being gay, and that you're still his son, which he grew for the past 16 years. For any other problems, you can address me here, at my Message box or straight to my mail\MSN messenger ([email protected]). Anyway, glad to have you here at our forum :)
 

OrgazmaBoy69

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so its like that

its not that i have problems with str8 people i just not feeling contect with them with gay's and lesbian i fell much comfortable (and by the way my mom is in Israel) they also here sending me to YESHIVA (a religious jewish school) and they know i hate it but they say that they sandung me to this school cuz the poblic school next to our house is very bad and shit they try to make ma keep shabba and more religiousa stuff and we always have fight's about that and now im nottalking to nobody in my house (besides my dad) i dont have problems with that, but they have and im not playing there rules any more i dont give about them and they know it and i tell it to them when ever i can i moved to new york cuz all the gay stuff and cuz i was hanging out to much with gay/lebian people (its waht my mom said) and me and my mom always fight so i moved here to live with my dad only after i came here my dad tald me that hes gonna mmarried to some women and them he took me see her i know that to some people im a very not easy going person and im not blame it on them i didnt have a very easy life i have my own "KTAAIM" that i feel like to be a bitch to everyone i know both of my perens not really sepports in all this gay and lesbian stuff and i dont know if i wanna be gay cuz i saw lots of more adult gay and lesbian and they dont have nothin half of them have AIDS and nothing else cuz gay's people not really build to a real friendship and i know it cuz i've been there i dont know what's going on with me and i dont like to talk to my perents iv'e barely and talked to them in the past 6 years after they got divorce non of me and my sisters dont like to talk to them maybe its something with us or something with my perents ...
 

TwelveEyes

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Hum hum...

Goodness, all that rubbish grammar will be the death of me. Ah well. Let me start by going sodding ballistic over what you consider a typical gay adult: All of them have AIDS, say you? And just how many aging benders have you met in your lifetime, mate? Many gay men and women lead a perfectly normal, healthy life, not vastly different from that of their straight counterparts aside from when it comes to bedly matters. As for not building a real friendship - pardon me, but I happen to bat for both sides and I daresay my mates have no complaints about the way I conduct myself towards them. Quite on the contrary. It's mighty brave and foolish of you to come frolicking around our forum, proclaiming all that bollocks of yours about us. I might go on to argue the toss about it with you, mate, but bugger to all that, you know? My mum and dad aren't divorced, and I barely have serious talks with them either. That hardly interfered with my decisions about my sexuality, nor should it with yours. Any road, love, I reckon you just need to take a bit of a breather, rearrange the pots, you know, and just figure it. If you're gay, you'll just have to face it like a right man. It's not so horrid as you may think it.
 

OrgazmaBoy69

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girl listen to me

trust me while i been in israel i saw lots and lots of thos people if they dont say to everyon that they have aids its dont say they dont im sorry if you got offense cuz what i say but its my opinion that basis about the things that saw in my life and trust me you and no one in this world know what i saw and i've beer though and i saw all of this people i guss that the older gay or lesbian you meet was 20-40 but i saw older and i talked to them and i know what going on with them in this age dont think that im not gay cuz i m but not everything about the gay and lesbian people is pink and beautiful cuz its not i dont say that str8 people r perfect cuz they r really not no one is perfect and i know that to be gay its not that bad and its actually really fun i didnt came in a way that i wanna ditch the gay/lesbian folk and im really sorry if someone got offense of what im saing i dont think its brave or foolish to come and say what i have to say while i was in israel i was gay but after i came here i didnt feel like that at all but lately i am feeling like that again but here i dont have no one to talk with him abot that so again im sorry if you got offense...
 
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sexyגירל

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למה אינגליש?!

אין לך עברית?? עד עכשיו כתבת בעברית כל הזמן
טוב אניווי המצב שאתה נמצא בו נשמע ממש קשה... בכלל זה קשה להיות הומו בסביבה דתית. הממ.. דווקא זה נשמע שההורים שלך בסדר, לא אמרת שהם עשו עניין או הקשו עליך יותר מידי. אבל זה באמת בעיה עם המשפחה שאתה גר איתה..
אפשר לשאול למה בכלל עברת לניו יורק...? אני חושבת שבלי קשר להעדפות המיניות שלי הייתי משתגעת עם משפחה כזאת אבל.. טבו זאת רק אני... ואני גם סתם מדברת כי אם הייתי במקומך אז גם הייתי חייבת להסתגל... אניווי כדאי לך לבוא לפה כמה שיותר, להתרענן עם הומואים/לסביות :)) אהה ואל תפחד להיות מי שאתה, הומו או בי או ווטאבר בעיני זה בכלל עדיף מלהיות סטרייט (זה כמובן, בגלל שאני סטרייטית ותמיד.. תמיד הדשא של השכן נראה ירוק ירוק כמו שאומרים...
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OrgazmaBoy69

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hey...

i always wrote with virtual hebrew key board (and its really irritating me) and my expression is better in english and i moved to new york cuz me and my mom didnt got along cuz lots of reasons and dont worry its not only you also if i wasnt what i m (i dont really know what i m ) i was going crazy and my perent r not so cool with that (both of them R POLISH people and its a nightmare) you know what im sain?
 
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sexyגירל

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Hey../images/Emo6.gif

Well i guess if u say it's easier for u to write in english than it must be easier to read in english too? oh well i guess i can do that`-) yea, i see what u're saying, it sounds like a really unpleasant situation u have to live in... first of all, i think moving to another country is always hard.. and it is twn times harder when u move into a religious family that try to force u into their religious stuff and u can't do anything about the way u feel, about u being gay. by the way, it sounds to me like you are gay, just trying to hide it.. well i don't know if hiding is the right word, but you're just not complete with who u are or what u feel... and i guess there's no way of working on that without seeing gay people, right? well it is true that u have to be tolarant towards straight people (don't be a hetrofob lol) but i think it's very important 4 u to see gay people too, so u could really figure out who/what u r... it might be hard, but i think the only thing there is to do is to try and find the gay people over there. after all, it is NY, there are probably loads of them right?
hehe the comment about ur polish parents was amusing.. yea mine are polish too.. well actually just my mom.. and.. well it's not her, just her mom... oh well i guess they're not that polish after all
well i'll end the message here cause it's getting too long..:) but you can always email me or write me on icq, msn, aim whatever... my email - [email protected] icq-78568120 aim-well actually i hardly use aim...
and the msn is same as the email add of course... Goodluck anywayz!! Or..
 

FreakOnALeash

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Lad? I don´t reckon?

האם המנהל החדש הוא אנגלופיל? בכל אופן, אני מעריך את סגנון הכתיבה, גם אם היו לך כמה שגיאות דקדוקיות
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TwelveEyes

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Oi!

Watch it, mate, or you'll end up arse over tit. Don't you be starting nothing with my bezzy, you daft old bag. Blimey, it's baltic out there today, isn't it? Not that I mind a bit of cloud droppings, on the contrary
אנגלופיליה זה טוב......
 
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sexyגירל

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חחחחחח אני חייבת להגיד ש...

טוב דבר ראשון כל הכבוד על האינגליש והכל.. :) אלב הייתי פשוט חייבת לציין שזה ממש משעשע לקרוא את השיחה שלכם.. זאת אומרת בלי קשר לתוכן, שהוא לא בדיוק משעשע, אבל.. האנגלית.. חחחח גם הטעוויות מדי פעם אבל בעיקר האנגלית הגבוהה שאף-אחד לא משתמש בה
(אל תקחו את זה אישית זה עדיין הכל נאמר בתור מחמאה!!!)
 

OrgazmaBoy69

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Sorry abot

im sorry abot my spelling mistake's (most of them r not really mistake's its just how everybody here write thing's like school skul and stuff like that) and i just start to learn english something like 6 month ago so ... you know what i mean spank u
 
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