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James Van Der Beek Interview Rules of Attraction Premiere Junket - Los Angeles, CA October 5th, 2002 Interviewers: Kim, Catherine & Christine Smith Question: Any second thoughts about doing this role? James: None at all. I loved the script. I really liked Roger. I really thought he could pull off what he was trying to pull off. I just couldn't wait to get the opportunity to do it and had to wait a while because there was a lot of resistance to me playing the role. Question: Why? James: My work on Dawson's Creek doesn't exactly scream Sean Bateman. A lot of people were unwilling to entertain the possibility that I could do it. Question: Did you have to audition? James: No I didn't. I just met with Roger and we talked about it. Question: How did you win the people over? James: He pretty much just insisted on it and said, no, I'm casting this guy and no matter what the producer said or what people's managers and agents said. The movie fell apart twice before we could finally get it going. Roger just stuck to his guns. Question: Why did you want to do it? James: It was, quite honestly, the best un-made script I've ever gotten my hands on. I thought it was really honest and raw. I loved the way the story was told. I thought it was completely different than anything I'd seen before, and certainly different from anything that's out there now. And the character was incredibly complex, conflicted, individual, which is the exact opposite of what I did on the TV show. So it really seemed perfect. Question: Is it because you thought it would be so different from your TV persona? James: Yeah. I had no interest in playing the same character I play nine months out of the year. Plus, if I'm going to ask people to pay $8 or $9 bucks to go see something, I'm going to give them something they can see for free every week. To me it made total sense to do something different. And also to let other people know that I was willing and able to do something different. Because I think people tend to assume that when you do a TV show that that's what you do. Question: And that's who you are? James: Yeah. Question: Did you want to run out and have a healthy relationship after making this? James: I did this movie while I was doing Dawson's Creek. I would fly to LA and shoot "Rules" for 3-4 days then get back on a plane and shoot Dawson's for 3-4 days. So I was working and flying 7 days a week sometimes. Because I had both extremes, I was kind of in this great, happy balanced place, so it was a great time for me. To the point where when the movie, I was so happy shooting this, that when I saw the first cut, and once I stopped playing the character, I really left him behind, the second to the last day, I remember sitting down with Shannyn and saying I'm ready to not be Bateman anymore. I just kind of left it and went right back into the show and it was like this whole experience had never happened. I was just back doing the same thing I had been doing for five years. So when I saw the first cut I was kind of struck by how unhappy Sean is all the time. All I had taken with me is how great a time I had doing it. Question: Do you know people like him? James: You pull from everything, experiences, people you know, things you've seen, things you've read. That's the great thing about acting, you can pull from any experience you've had or have heard about really. Question: I saw the first episode of "DC "where you gave her a dome. James: Oh yeah, I forgot about that. Question: How do you play a character like Sean (so different from Dawson)? James: It helped in a way to build Sean as the complete opposite of Dawson because I had to play them both at the same time. It would have been much trickier to try and play someone kind of like Dawson but not really. To go to the complete other side of the spectrum took a lot of work but that's just the way I did it. Question: You've been doing this character for how long? James: Six years. This is our sixth season. Question: At this point, is it like a comfy shoe? How do you feel about the role at this point? James: It's as easy to fall into as a bad habit. Sometimes. I think that's what allowed me to do both at the same time because I've done (Dawson) for five years. Playing Sean was almost like swimming upstream. Then, I'd get on a plane back to Wilmington and kind of drift back in. When I played Dawson, I woke up in one bed and drove to work a certain way and saw the same people and same makeup trailer and same script and it was easy to keep the two worlds separate. Question: Are you still happy doing the show? Does it still challenge you? James: It's challenging, yeah. Getting a new script every week and a new head writer just about every year. It's definitely had its challenges. It's been such a great experience. I'm incredibly grateful for it.
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Question: How much longer do you think it will continue? James: I've been told that this most likely is the last year. Question: What was the most challenging scene for you to do in this movie? The sex scene or anger? James: The most challenging was the stuff we shot first. The split-screen shot. It was like the second day of shooting. Question: Technically challenging? James: Yeah. Technically it was a nightmare, but it worked. That's the great thing about having someone like Roger at the helm. He had to shoot it with a motion-control camera and we literally had to time it so that we would walk down the hallway, stop, play the scene looking in the lens and then 1 minutes and 22 seconds after action, the camera would pull back, so we had to time it down to that. We had to marry Shannyn's performance, pick a take, turn around to me, and I played it with an earwig. With some directors, you think, God, this is going to take all day but on this set there was this attitude of, Alright, OK. We can do this. That was challenging? Question: Were the sex scenes challenging? James: With both the girls, honestly, it was great. They were really brave, good sports about it. They were both so cool. That can be really tricky especially if you get somebody who's not comfortable and you can't make them comfortable and then you start to worry about it. It's something you just have to go for. I was a little nervous actually because I'd met Kate (Bosworth) and she seemed really cool and very sweet and I didn't want to scare her too much. But she was great. She was a total sport as was Jessie. I have a lot of respect for both of those girls. Question: Is there a dark side to you? James: Yeah. There's a dark side to everybody. It's just a matter of how much you listen to it or let yourself counteract it, I guess. Question: Is there anything you'd change about your performance? James: No. That's pretty rare. Or maybe I've gotten to the point where I recognize there's nothing I can change so I don't even think that way. I also think it has a lot to do with how Roger put it together. At the premiere I had a great time because I was very proud of the movie. That doesn't always happen. Question: What's your natural high? You can't say acting. James: But it is. To say you can't? It's your passion. Whatever you want to do in life, if it's your goal or focus. If there's something that you care about and want to get better at and work at; that's your anti-drug and for me it's acting. Just any old hobby wouldn't do it. I think having a passion is probably the best way. Question: What was working with Roger [Avary] like? James: He's great. He's fearless. He's not afraid of what anyone else thinks of him. You just trust him. You trust that he cares about these characters. He's not standing in judgment of them or laughing at them. Especially as the writer-director, it's obvious that he really had gone there to write it. He was invested in it. You just got the sense that he kind of understood and got it. And just in terms of when somebody watches a performance too, you can tell how closely the director is watching when he comes out from behind the monitor. With Roger, you always felt so confident that he was right there with me. Question: He said you and Shannyn worked totally differently? James: Yeah. It probably worked that way. Working in television, you get proficient in all the technical aspects of filmmaking that you need to be proficient at. It just makes the job a lot easier. Where as, Shannyn completely runs on instinct. You never know what you're going to get from her. You really don't. It's like working with an animal or child. She doesn't know how to lie. You don't know what she's going to come up with and that's tremendously exciting for me to work with someone like that. It forces you to be on your toes. I had a great time working with her. Question: You said, hey, and got her back in the scene when she started laughing (on the church steps scene)? James: Yeah. She had kind of lost it because when she feels like she's lying, sometimes she freaks out. I decided to? It was just total instinct. I screamed at her. Not like, you stupid actress, how could you forget your lines but I yelled, Hey, and repeated the line and locked into her and caught her. And Shannyn being Shannyn rolled with it. And she was great. Question: Was that the take used in the film? James: I don't know. You'd have to ask Roger. I think it might be but I don't know. I know it was powerful because as soon as I did that she locked in and ran on instinct again.
Question: How much longer do you think it will continue? James: I've been told that this most likely is the last year. Question: What was the most challenging scene for you to do in this movie? The sex scene or anger? James: The most challenging was the stuff we shot first. The split-screen shot. It was like the second day of shooting. Question: Technically challenging? James: Yeah. Technically it was a nightmare, but it worked. That's the great thing about having someone like Roger at the helm. He had to shoot it with a motion-control camera and we literally had to time it so that we would walk down the hallway, stop, play the scene looking in the lens and then 1 minutes and 22 seconds after action, the camera would pull back, so we had to time it down to that. We had to marry Shannyn's performance, pick a take, turn around to me, and I played it with an earwig. With some directors, you think, God, this is going to take all day but on this set there was this attitude of, Alright, OK. We can do this. That was challenging? Question: Were the sex scenes challenging? James: With both the girls, honestly, it was great. They were really brave, good sports about it. They were both so cool. That can be really tricky especially if you get somebody who's not comfortable and you can't make them comfortable and then you start to worry about it. It's something you just have to go for. I was a little nervous actually because I'd met Kate (Bosworth) and she seemed really cool and very sweet and I didn't want to scare her too much. But she was great. She was a total sport as was Jessie. I have a lot of respect for both of those girls. Question: Is there a dark side to you? James: Yeah. There's a dark side to everybody. It's just a matter of how much you listen to it or let yourself counteract it, I guess. Question: Is there anything you'd change about your performance? James: No. That's pretty rare. Or maybe I've gotten to the point where I recognize there's nothing I can change so I don't even think that way. I also think it has a lot to do with how Roger put it together. At the premiere I had a great time because I was very proud of the movie. That doesn't always happen. Question: What's your natural high? You can't say acting. James: But it is. To say you can't? It's your passion. Whatever you want to do in life, if it's your goal or focus. If there's something that you care about and want to get better at and work at; that's your anti-drug and for me it's acting. Just any old hobby wouldn't do it. I think having a passion is probably the best way. Question: What was working with Roger [Avary] like? James: He's great. He's fearless. He's not afraid of what anyone else thinks of him. You just trust him. You trust that he cares about these characters. He's not standing in judgment of them or laughing at them. Especially as the writer-director, it's obvious that he really had gone there to write it. He was invested in it. You just got the sense that he kind of understood and got it. And just in terms of when somebody watches a performance too, you can tell how closely the director is watching when he comes out from behind the monitor. With Roger, you always felt so confident that he was right there with me. Question: He said you and Shannyn worked totally differently? James: Yeah. It probably worked that way. Working in television, you get proficient in all the technical aspects of filmmaking that you need to be proficient at. It just makes the job a lot easier. Where as, Shannyn completely runs on instinct. You never know what you're going to get from her. You really don't. It's like working with an animal or child. She doesn't know how to lie. You don't know what she's going to come up with and that's tremendously exciting for me to work with someone like that. It forces you to be on your toes. I had a great time working with her. Question: You said, hey, and got her back in the scene when she started laughing (on the church steps scene)? James: Yeah. She had kind of lost it because when she feels like she's lying, sometimes she freaks out. I decided to? It was just total instinct. I screamed at her. Not like, you stupid actress, how could you forget your lines but I yelled, Hey, and repeated the line and locked into her and caught her. And Shannyn being Shannyn rolled with it. And she was great. Question: Was that the take used in the film? James: I don't know. You'd have to ask Roger. I think it might be but I don't know. I know it was powerful because as soon as I did that she locked in and ran on instinct again.
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Question: Do you think you'll continue to take these roles that are different from Dawson? James: Yeah. I'd like to mix it up. What I really go by is the story. And the movie and how much I like that and it's something I want to be a part of story wise. Then, is the character fascinating to me? Can I play this guy the way no one else can? That's the question you ask yourself sometimes. I've a feeling I'll want to do something different. Question: Are you interested in writing and directing? James: I'm actually directing an episode of the show. Question: Interested in doing on films? James: Not yet. Dawson's Creek is the perfect place to break yourself in because the crew is right there for you and the actors. Question: Have you started? James: No. I'll start focusing on that as soon as this movie opens. Question: What will the other actors on the show think? James: I have so much respect for them and I think I know what not to say. Question: You obviously know where their buttons are. James: And I know which ones not to push. I'm not going to be in their face saying, C'mon. I just want to make it fun for them. It'll be like the monkeys running the asylum. Question: Did you do research on college life? James: No. I've been to college and Roger's been to college. The script was so truthful when I read it that you pretty much took your cues from that. It's not like we were setting out to make something that was representative of the majority of people's college experience. We were concentrating on three specific people who were so well formed in the script that that was more of a human story than a (college story). Question: Your college wasn't like that? James: No. There's a lot of truth to what happens. These people exist. And these emotions exist. And these instincts are there. It's just a matter of how much you listen to them, I guess. Question: Is your next film lined up? James: No. I'm on Dawson's through April and then we'll see. Question: Were you aware of being a Bateman throughout? (American Psycho reference) James: Absolutely. For me it was very important that Sean's the younger brother of Patrick. That was a big part of my back-story. Imagine growing up in that household. You thought your older brother was mean to you. That's where it comes from. It's not a happy Christmas
Question: Do you think you'll continue to take these roles that are different from Dawson? James: Yeah. I'd like to mix it up. What I really go by is the story. And the movie and how much I like that and it's something I want to be a part of story wise. Then, is the character fascinating to me? Can I play this guy the way no one else can? That's the question you ask yourself sometimes. I've a feeling I'll want to do something different. Question: Are you interested in writing and directing? James: I'm actually directing an episode of the show. Question: Interested in doing on films? James: Not yet. Dawson's Creek is the perfect place to break yourself in because the crew is right there for you and the actors. Question: Have you started? James: No. I'll start focusing on that as soon as this movie opens. Question: What will the other actors on the show think? James: I have so much respect for them and I think I know what not to say. Question: You obviously know where their buttons are. James: And I know which ones not to push. I'm not going to be in their face saying, C'mon. I just want to make it fun for them. It'll be like the monkeys running the asylum. Question: Did you do research on college life? James: No. I've been to college and Roger's been to college. The script was so truthful when I read it that you pretty much took your cues from that. It's not like we were setting out to make something that was representative of the majority of people's college experience. We were concentrating on three specific people who were so well formed in the script that that was more of a human story than a (college story). Question: Your college wasn't like that? James: No. There's a lot of truth to what happens. These people exist. And these emotions exist. And these instincts are there. It's just a matter of how much you listen to them, I guess. Question: Is your next film lined up? James: No. I'm on Dawson's through April and then we'll see. Question: Were you aware of being a Bateman throughout? (American Psycho reference) James: Absolutely. For me it was very important that Sean's the younger brother of Patrick. That was a big part of my back-story. Imagine growing up in that household. You thought your older brother was mean to you. That's where it comes from. It's not a happy Christmas
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