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In the case of Zen meditation, I regularly see the following problem. . . To 'empty the mind', to 'forget the body', to 'vanish from the world,' can be twisted very easily to achieve a very unhealthy state. That of withdrawing. Souls can reach upwards or downwards. To reach upwards, means to continually question, explore, to accumulate knowledge and wisdom. To grow like this is to grow in a powerful, spiritual way, and stopping the internal dialogue in order to allow our description of the world to collapse and see directly the energy which makes up our reality can offer a huge leap forward in understanding everything, as it breaks us away from one perspective and allows many, many others. This is what is known as 'Seeing.' Any time our ability to see new things, or the same things in new ways, increases our knowledge and spirit likewise grow. However, some souls find the struggle of existence, (and indeed, eternal existence through many reincarnative lives), a tiresome and even horrifying concept. For these types of people, there is the strong desire to collapse the soul into lower and lower forms. Essentially, to crawl back into the womb and go back to sleep. To become, what is known in some circles, as primal matter. This is the only known way, (according to my knowledge, anyhow), in which a soul can truly be destroyed, and as such, it is fiercely sought after by those who find existence unbearable. (Though primarily this is done on a subconscious level, the decision perhaps having been made pre-incarnation where full access to one's total knowledge base from all lived lived is available.) The practice of emptying the mind and forgetting the body and the world through Zen meditation can just as easily facilitate this kind of regression of awareness; the undoing and giving up of knowledge, one's very spiritual essence.