hello, i am new in this forum

[בוני רייט]

hello, i am new in this forum

and i am a plain israelish , i am learning english at my high school but, i must to admit, they arn't teaching very well, a part of my english is my own work. after i read some of the talks in this forum and i have seen that the most of the people arn't israelish, i realy hope that even i don't know much of this language i will be able to be part of this forum, if there are some mitakes i wish you will write to me

 

[בוני רייט]

*even if i

 

[רן88]

I think you are wrong

Most of the people in this forum are Israelis. Anyway, welcome to the forum - have fun (and use capital letters when you write, please).​

 

[ArieIO5]

Welcome

I always say that the only way to master a language is to speak it. And I totally agree with you that the school system is doing an incredibly lousy job with English. There's no telling what a mere month of being in an English-speaking environment could do to one's English, and surely it'll do a whole lot more than 20 years of doing clozes and unseens. Anyway, I hope you keep coming here and get the regular practice you need (even if it's just written practice...) And BTW, a lot of us here (including myself) are in fact Israeli-born.​

 

[רן88]

What do you think the Ministry of

Education should do? A month in New-York is much more efficient, of course, but it's not practical...​

 

[ArieIO5]

Obviously

I wasn't really suggesting that every school should arrange an anuual month-long field trip to the states. I realize now that I did quite a poor job with the passage structure, that is, keeping all my sentences connected to each other... Anyway, so what CAN be done...? One could say the main problem is that they're basically teaching English in comparison to Hebrew, which is definitely pretty stupid, especially since we're talking about two such different langauges. So I guess putting more emphasis on the need to grasp English as an individual (as well as being more strict on the exclusive use of English in the classroom) would do a lot. But I actually think it's something bigger than that. I seem to find it hard to describe, but it has to do with the lack of teachers who truly love the language they teach (and for that you really don't have to be a native speaker), and try as hard as they can to pass that love on to their students. That is important with every subject, but with languages it's crucial.​

 

[Lily Potter]

I agree

I totally agree with you... Most teachers doesn't have enough passion to the English language, but it's not only that. Students today has no resect at all to their teachers and only those who really love the subject actually listen. It's something very basic...the MOE gave students a free hand in many issues, and students simply don't care. I have no idea where it started; maybe it was because teacher rarely cares for what he teaches or about his students, maybe because children today only care about the pleasures of the day, and not many think about their future, maybe because parents today feel like they are much more important than their children's teachers and they see it fit to yell at them in the presence of their childern, which of course, makes children feel as though they are better than their teachers. All of that has to be changed, or else, the education system in Israel is going to keep going down. And it's not going to be pretty.

 

[Ferma]

I think your sarcasm is in place.

Meaning that you used it very well to make a true and sad point

The blame lay on all, the teachers, the students and their parents. There are parents whom children pay respect to their teachers and there are wonderful teachers. When both (those children and those teachers) meets, good things happen. Today's teachers aren't Erich Kastner's teachers for sure. Today's children aren't the Victorian children for sure. The parent usually have a conflict because they want to be both, friends and authority, to their children. And of course the ever real fear for their children safety and well being (with the notions that the parent knows best what the best for his child – more then his parents, the child's teachers and of course the child himself). So we have an absurdity, which your sarcasm (as I interpreted it) describes very well indeed.

Thanks,

 

[hakuna5]

hey, I'm new too

I hope I will talk with people a lot in this forum, since I want to make my English better. My name is Hila, I'm almost thirteen years old (in only nine days..

), my mother is an English and French tutor. She speaks well many languages. Many of the people in my family live in America, but they always say that Israel is the best place for them. I like to write stories and little songs in English, and I used to do it a lot an year ago- at the English classes at school. I was very bored, it was so easy

By the way, I don't have "English Speakers" in my college. It's a kinda poor college, you know

I hope I'll have fun here, and welcome, בוני רייט

 

[בוני רייט]

thank-you people

first thing. thank-you all for your reactions. in the subject of my high school- I didn't mean to complaijust write the fact. and Hila thank-you too, and welcome in my family none is british or americn, they are all israelies, and because i love the language, i have learned english by myself specialy by translate a book with a dictionary

 

[אלת הירח]

Welcome

I too refuse to let the school system take credit for my English. It's mostly my own making. The secret is that English has always been associated in my mind to enjoyable things - music, TV shows and people I liked. And I'm 100% Israeli.​

 

[תותי1234]

HI everybody!

I'm new, too. My name is Lana, I'm almost 18 years old and I tottaly agree with you that the English which is tought in most of the schools is not serious and not usful , as there is not enough emphasis on speaking. I studied english in school for 6 years and I don't feel that it helped me a lot. I had a private teacher for one year and improved my English a little bit, when I felt that i need more parctice in speaking i have started studing at "WALL STREET" and I'm still there. It's the first time I'm reading in this forum and I think I's a great one! I hope to visit here as mush as i can and to speak with new peope in this wonderful language!! (If I have mistakes, please correct me ) Good evening

 

[AtlantiX]

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Greetings all ! I would like to join this forum. I'm not sure why but it seems like a great topic (or shell I say 'Off-topic' `-) ) for a forum. Feel free to correct my English. Regards, 10ks​

 

[perfect illusion]

I'm another newbie!

Hi! I'm new here just like you. I'm 20 years old and I love English. Everybody is impressed and tells me I have great English. But I keep saying that my English is just okay plus. At school, I was really really bad, my English was terrible. Wasn't even English... I hated it. But now I'm better. My English came from television and internet. But I still have some mistakes. But I'm learning. I really wanted to go to Wall Street, but people told me not to. Well, I can't move to USA (I wish), so I'm really glad they opened this forum. Right now I'm a little insecure about my English. To get better, I read and write and watch mostly in English. And for talking English, I talk with my brother and read aloud. Sorry I wrote way too much. Hope you read it all. So welcome me!

 

[רוקד עם שבלולים]

man, you're aces

Welcome. First of all: there's NO SUCH THING as writing too much. Write a friggin' book, we'll read it all. Your English is way beyond "Okay plus". Here are all the errors I could find: "...and the Internet". "...move to the USA". I know Americans who make more mistakes than that. Dude, you're soaring with the eagles. ee you around​

 

[perfect illusion]

oh, thank you!

It's nice to hear. I don't write books but I do write other things. Okay, no such thing, got it.

 

[עכבר מלאך]

Not entirely related

... but I read somewhere that British people have relatively more writing mistakes than other people (or something like that), which is ridiculous, since they invented English in the first place... And hey, this entire forum is a newbie

Welcome

 

[רוקד עם שבלולים]

I'm not sure that's true

but since neither of us have any reliable source, we'll never know. In any case, Aussies are notorious for their bad spelling. Here's the end of a letter I received from the (quite formal) Melbourne University Writing Centre, detailing a program I'll be attending: 2pm to 2.30pm Writing for Newspapers Paul Ramadge is senior deputy editor for The Age. 2.30pm to 3.30pm Writing Exercise #2 3.30pm to 3.45pm Afternoon Tea 3.45pm to 4.45pm The Business of Being a Writer Taking a look at the life of the professional writer will be literary publicist and author, Shirley Hardy-Rix, Text Publishing’s Sales and Marketing Director, Emily Booth, and leading Melbourne book retailer and General Manager of Reader’s Feast Bookstores, Mary Dalmau. 4.45pm Wrap Up and Were to Next? See?​

 

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[Wakamusha]

English in Israel

English literacy in Israel is staggering perfunctory.. And hell, we can't help it.. Studying English has always been some sort of political "we-just-have-to-try-teaching-it" subject.. But frankly.. You really can't study a language unless you're way more exposed to it than the mandatory educational system forces you to be.. I think that many of my peers lack English literacy to a level that they can't have a fluent conversation with a native English speaker, and that's because the only way to learn a language is to be utterly immersed in it. And speaking of mistakes, start by not writing "Israelish", it makes me giggle. Go for "Israeli" any day. If you're really interested in improving your English, the way to it is books and video.. Since you probably won't be too successful at convincing your friends (which is the best way, really) to start chattering in English with you.