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Nirvana0

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Cheers to Toronto

כמה פעמים נתקלתם בעץ המשפחתי כתלמידי בי"ס ואו כהורים... העץ שלא תואם את מגוון התאים המשפחתיים וגרם לא פעם מפח נפש ללא מעט ילדים.
Epstein, a lesbian mother, and the rest of the Queer Parenting Initiative were motivated to make the poster after hearing stories of children of diverse family structures becoming uncomfortable when making their family tree in school - something that's required under the Grade 2 Ontario curriculum. "The story that often I tell is one that happened in my daughter's class," said Epstein in a speech to a gymnasium full of children and parents, many of them gay. "They were doing family tree exercises and the kid of a lesbian put up her hand and said, 'What if you don't have a dad?' and the teacher said, 'Of course you have a dad, everybody has a dad,' and the kid said, 'Well, what if you don't have a dad?' and the teacher said, 'What, were you born in a jar?' and the kid was hurt."​
 

ro99

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הרגישות שמורים מסויימים מגלים

לנפש הרכה של ילדים כבר מזמן לא מפתיעה אותי.
 

CANADA1979

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ro99 here is a psychological thing

for you to analyze: I know this girl who is 24, she was adopted by two lesbians and grew up jewish... now can u imagine growing up 24 years ago in a gay family? Back then it was hard enough growing up in a non so jewish city (vancouver) can u imagine growing up jewish, adopted and to two mothers??? this girl is the nicest girl ever however, she has no self confidence what so ever... it saddens me that whenever i talk to her she has this appologetic tone to her voice, as if she is ashamed or something... I totally think it's a psychological thing... I just hope that kids who grow up in same sex families would not be shy or ashamed of who they are and that they will have some self confidence not to think that others are better than them...​
 

ro99

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I can't tell from such a distance

And without meeting the woman herself. There could be a million causes for the way you conceive of her. Some could be purely your own interpretation, some could be specifically to do with her. The ones that are directly connected to her do not necessarily have to be caused by the lesbian/Jewish aspect. They could, for instance, stem from another cause and then the lesbian/Jewish thing could be interacting with them, or not even that. It's very complex, as are most things connected to human nature. The best help you can offer is to be a good friend and take her as she is, not criticising or telling her how she should behave or be. Acceptance is the biggest boost to self-confidence​
 

Noile

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lesbian mums

i think the issue of gay parenting and it's effect on children is extremely interesting. there was a research that was published here recently, i only heard about it in the gay radio, didn't read it myself, but they were saying that they found lesbian couples to make better parents than the average straight couple. i am not sure on what criteria they have judged the parenting though. and with gay parenting being more and more common, i am sure more researches will be done in that area. about the girl you mentioned, psychologists would remain with no clients if low self esteem was limited to jewish girls with two lesbian mothers, or as ro said, you can't really know what led to the way she feels about herselv without actually hearing her full story.​
 
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