by the way, I am new here

[White Dragon]

ברוך הבא

נטע ממלבורן, כבר שנתיים וחצי פה ונוסעת עוד חודש לבקר את המשפחה בישראל פעם ראשונה אחרי שנתיים (אייקון של רועדת מפחד).

 

[CANADA1979]

Neta

I was in israel 3 weeks ago for 3 weeks after not being in Israel for 4 years and not seeing my family for 4 years....you should be scared...first I didn't recognize them in the airport and they didnt recognize me, second...it is so weired to be there since I am not used to so many things... I found myself traslating shekels to canadian dollars and not knowing many things that I found out for the first time in Canada...for example, I didn't even know what the gay scene is like and how people behave there, I also didn't know anything about bars and clubs (apperently you can't run a tab in Israe) Also the credit cards are different here than in Israel Also I got mad at some israelis (friends of my cousin) when they said that I am not israeli....wow it was making me so so so mad, I love being israeli and just because I am polite and don't live in Israel now or in the past 6 years it doesn't mean tha tI am not israeli.... After being here for 6 years... there is nothing that I want to be but israeli....and u know what, we can start a new type of israelis who are very nice, polite quiet and whatever else... I just love us!!!!

 

[eig]

לי אמרו את זה עוד שהייתי שם

אני מתייחס לזה שאמור לך שאתה לא ישראלי. אני שמעתי ביטויים כאלה מחברים ואנשים ומשפחה כשחייתי בישראל עוד לפני שעלה הרעיון בכלל לעבור למקום אחר. תמיד אמרו לי אנשים: אתה לא ישראלי בכלל מה אתה עושה פה? אין על מה להתעצבן העולם גדול ישראל קטנה אם אתה לא ישראלי בעיניי מישהו זה עוד לא אומר שאין לך שייכות בעולם. בכל אופן אני ראיתי בזה כמחמאה גדולה

 

[CANADA1979]

I was also told that especially whe

when at the age of 15 I went to tel aviv once a week to the Goethe institut to study german, apperently the french in school wasn't good enough for me and I wanted more...from there I did 5 points german bagrut (kfka literature etc...) and 5 french.. they also sent me to germany on a scholarship to live with a german family for a summer. I always knew that I will live abroad one day and my parents accepted it ever since I was 4 (when I said that I would marry a swiss girl and live in switzerland) When I was young i wanted to leave israel but I never hated the country like some people. I realized that being who I am is the most important part and not where I am from. I even get so many compliments when I say that I am israeli , people get so excited about it and love it....so why should I be something else? I am proud of who i am and where i am from it just saddens me that I don't have the same mentality as the rest of my cuontry....

 

[ciccio]

ברוך הבא

אני כבר 7 שנים, 7 שנים, שבע פרות שמנות, שבע פרות רזות, שבע כלות לשבעה אחים במילנו

 

[ciccio]

אתה יודע את זה כבר

כי עניתי מקודם, אכל אני רואה שלאט לאט כולם עונים אז גם אני עונה, מה, אחר כך יגידו שאני סנוב, שאני מתנשא? נו, ולא בדיוק שבע שנים, שש ו9 חודשים

 

[ronnl]

זהו? אתה מדבר אל עצמך?

 

[CANADA1979]

WOW THANK YOU GUYS....

What a lovely international welcome.... and why am I the only one that writes here more than 2 words per message? you guys are not that busy....hey! so please.... a little bit consideration and elaborated messages for all of you who want to know what I am doing here (there) in canada so scroll back up/down I wrote it maybe 5 times... just in case, I am 25 lived 4 years in Montreal (in french and english) and now 2 years in Toronto (only in english ) so I finished my B.A and M.A here and now I am working and looking for a husband....hehehehe What else can I say... not much What do u guys do wherever you live? and how old are you and what brought you guys to wherever you are.... I am a curious boy.... by the way...imagine this...it is -33 (with wind chill, this morning) and I had to wake up at 4.45 and come to work really early (some problem) I am sure that the amsterdam boys were just turning around in bed at that time and even with the time difference....hehehehe write people write!!!! p.s. even in dutch...I can understand some

 

[itay82]

prova det här isåfal

trying to raise awareness for Swedish, once again And yes, elaborated messages. You are asking for a little too much, if I may say so myself. And yes, I represent all of the middle/western/north/whatever European countries (well, everything but the Netherlands and the UK, basically). Studying in Berlin, working (sometimes) in Stockholm and a bit in Wroclaw, and since I studied in Paris up until september, I'm also known as "the guy from Paris". Other than that, I've just finished reading my boss' report about Polish immigration to Sweden, and I should be starting to work on it anytime now. Then I have to add my own insights about Poles in Germany, and then... well... I have to try and call my dad to wish him a happy b-day.

 

[CANADA1979]

hey hey hey

in the u can't just write something like that in leave me like taht I am so curious now to know more about you what do u do how did u start that where the hell do u live now, how old are you....so many questions I am also very interested in the french part...living in Montreal for 4 years I love french (if you can call quebecois french anyhow so let me know, what you studied etc....and what the hell is goig on there with all the different countries and places curious curious curious

 

[itay82]

hey?

you can take my word for it, I really am not that interesting. And no, quebecois definitely isn't french. (meme si j'ai deja passe des heures avec trop de quebecois qui avaient essaye de me convaincre qu'ils etaient plus francais que le franchouillard moyen, mais bon, juste les ecouter dire "non" me donne envie de leur arracher les couilles). And my storia? Am 22, after high school I spent a year in Sweden, at the end of which I started teaching Swedish to East-european immigrants. I then got back to Israel, did 1 year in the army (kaban wasn't involved, more like heart problems) and then I decided to go back to Sweden. In the middle of sending stuff to Stockholm's University I changed my mind and decided to go to Paris (bigger city and all) but that was after talking to my old boss who by then got promoted in Stockholm's city hall and now does more important immigration projects. He offered me a job I couldn't refuse and I then found myself moving between Paris and Stockholm for almost 2.5 years. A few months ago I decided I've had it with the French school system and with the prices in Paris, so I moved to Berlin. Took me some time to understand how things work here, and then my boss in sthlm decided I could also do the Wroclaw part of the project, so bus trips to Wroclaw are also a part of the routine now. As I said, nothing to be drooling over.

 

[CANADA1979]

VERY VERY INTERESTING AND YET

WHAT ARE YOU? sweidish, israeli? after high school where? it's funny that you changed your mind from sweden to paris...I changed my mind last minute from amsterdam to montreal. I always wonder how my life would have been had I gone to amsterdam...for once my dutch would be better than my french... Oh and I also wanted to tell you que je trouve les quebecois formidable dans le lit.... apres les israelien ils sont au dessus dans mon liste....hehehehe Me and my roomate (whos'russina canadian/ not jewish) we always say that we will move to europe in couple of years, we both want to try the european thing... but for some reason, I think I am more into spain portugal and italy than the blonde north.... my ex roomate was from finland and he was a really great guy but with mentality....OMG I need passionate people that will have different face expression to each emotion and not like finns who keep str8 face when they are happy or sad.... So how is living in germany, france or sweden? Sounds fun but then again, I am so used to the north american way of life that I wouldn't really want to live in europe...I had to stop in budapest for 2 days on the way to israel 3 weeks ago and I got so depressed by the city and hungary....I was so happy to come back to Canada althoug it is like -33 (this morning) I felt like I am coming from a third world (hungary) to the real world (canada) I just hope that the rest of europe doesn't operate this way. I am used to order and things going according the schedule and if someone (malev) is canceling a flight...I expect to be compensated and not be given a vouture for pizzza and coke and be put in a lousy hotel after waiting for 8 hours....but that's just my experience in hungayry oh and for the hungarian israeli here, sorry!!!nothing personal by the way....bussing from berlin to poland doesn't really sound like my dream job.... but then again, I hate my job also.... (it's only temporary) so waht did u study by the way? I really want to visit paris again, since I have so many friends from there, as u know in montreal we had so many international students that now I have friends all over the globe. I need to visit friends in Ireland, France, Finland, Australia etc.... oh and a second by the way, I love your long messages...it's always nice to meet new people oh and third by the way...this is what my swedish consists of: manga baker smo blirn sto oo (I didn't spell it right but let's see if u know what it is) and also jog protar ikka svenska e mam jog will glass eta e coka drika.... and I know to count... that's about it...

 

[itay82]

blah

am Israeli, even though I'm also officially Polish. And well... Hungary is not really western Europe. Even though I find Budapest incredibly charming (except for the language). Life standards on this side of the continent are quite different. What I love about Berlin is the combination between east and west. The eastern grey together with the western high living standard and more than anything, openness. And since you've already started generelizing about Europeans... Finns are special. Also very different from the Scandinavians (Finland is NOT Scandinavia) It's a completely different mentality from the Swedish or the Danish ones. And then again, I find the southern European mentalities incredibly annoying (passionate? Like hell... for tourists maybe) I really do believe that the more you get to the north, the more romantic people get. And the other thing you wrote kinda goes both ways. After a few years in Europe, without having any connection to northern America, I wouldn't be able to live in Großraum Nordamerika. Et bon, je n'ai jamais teste un quebecois dans un lit, donc la, je ne pourrais pas dire grand-chose, mais juste l'idee de le faire avec quelqu'un qui s'eclate en quebecois? No way.

 

[White Dragon]

העבודה ההיא על פולנים ויהודים...

אני לא זוכרת אם כתבתי לך על זה, אבל סיפרתי לחברה מהעבודה שהיגרה לאוסטרליה מפולין לפני חמש או שש שנים על העבודה ואתה יודע מה קיבלתי בתמורה?????? כמעט שעה של הסברים למה כולם תמיד דופקים את הפולנים ולאף אחד לא איכפת מהם וכולם שונאים אותם ולא הזמינו אותם לצעדה של סיום מלחמת העולם השניה בלונדון אפילו שהם כן נלחמו נגד הנאצים ובלה בלה בלה... כמעט שעה שלמה!!! רציתי לומר לה בסוף ההרצאה - רואה - הוא צודק בנקודה שלו, פולנים הם באמת כמו יהודים עם הרגשה תמידית של קורבן נצחי וספר חשבונות מימי הביניים, אבל שתקתי כי ידעתי שזה יביא עוד הרצאה של שעה

 

[itay82]

oh...

I can relate, have been through that quite a few times before. As long as she didn't tell you it's well known that the Jews gave poisonous candy to Polish kids during the 2nd WW, then it's all normal. In some way I think that most phenomenons you get in israel are to be found in Poland, but in a more extreme way. That's my theory anyhow.

 

[White Dragon]

I totally agree with you

And she's got no issues with Jews - she's a really interesting - on one hand she's pretty religious and goes to church on a regular basis and writes in the local Polish newspaper, and reckons that Jesus might come back soon coz of the tsunami and the wars everywhere - but on the other hand she recycles everything, eats only free range chicken, very open minded to other religions and cultures – she always tries to learn more about aboriginal issues, refugee issues, has no qualms with gays… I guess she’s a very good Christian in the meaning that she really does believe in loving others and that Jesus loves us all and we are all equal – not like many religious people I met that told me stuff like that I’ll burn in hell coz I’m a dyke or that tell everyone what to do but aren’t that great themselves (and I don’t refer to Christians alone, but the whole lot – Jews, Muslims, Christians, Buddhist – the lot). But she’s really great to talk too – and I do sometimes when talking to her feel like I’m talking to Ms. Israela Israeli – just in her polite Christian version… nobody loves us, we’re so few and had to survive, we don’t get the respect we deserve, etc.​

 

[itay82]

What I forgot to write was

Willkommen, bienvenu, welcome (to cabaret?) and välkommen, witam I think that just about sums it up?

 

[ro99]

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אז קודם כל, לפני שאתה מאשים אנשים בכתיבת הודעות קצרות, לך לשוטט לך בדפים קודמים של הפורום ותמצא שם הודעות שלי למשל שתזדקק להנשמה מלאכותית אחרי שתגמור אותן. אם יש פה משהי שאלופה בזיון שכל, זאת אני. ועכשיו נענה ל-Spanish Inquisition... אני גרה בכפר הולנדי על שפת הים לא רחוק מאמסטרדם, בת 44 ופסיכולוגית. והשאר בפעם אחרת - אני בטוחה שכאשר תשוטט בהודעות קודמות תמצא המון תשובות על השאלות שלך. אבל עכשיו אני הולכת לאכול (כי חזרתי לא מזמן מטיול עם הכלב על שפת הים, לא במיוחד קר - קצת מעל 0 - ויורד גשם) ושנייה לפני זה לשים הודעה אחרת מאוד חשובה.