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למה שהשמאלנים הרדיקלים בשינאתם העיוורת לציונות ולמדינת ישראל יכולים להגיע: הנה משהו שלא הייתם מאמינים שיכול להיות: שמאלנים באפולוגטיקה על היטלר לינק Yael, Eichmann said that there was a Hitler order but that he never saw it. SS General Mueller allegedly told him that there was such an order. It is a very strange situation that even somebody like Eichmann, who was very central to the “Final Solution” (he was present at the Wannsee Confernce) didn’t see a written order from Hitler. It is widely agreed that Hitler was not a very strong dictator and had no control over many things done in Germany. What I’m saying isn’t a defense for Hitler. He was a criminal even without Auschwitz. He is directly responsible for many crimes ad not only against Jews. Tony, Please bring me a single written proof and I’ll agree with you. In order to demonstrate the desperate situation of the intentionalists I’ll quote the “discovery” of a German historian called Christian Gerlach, who in 1998 found an entry in Himmler’s diary from December 18, 1941. After meeting Hitler, Himmler wrote a note saying something like “Jews are to be treated like partisans.” The whole world applauded the historian for his important “discovery” and Yehuda Bauer gave a lengthy interview about it to the Ha’aretz Supplement. I wrote a letter to the editor which angered Amnon Rubinstein. I wrote that this entry is no proof at all. First of all it doesn’t say that Hitler told Himmler so and if he did, it doesn’t talk about gassing Jews, as the partisans were shot immediately after they were caught and not gassed. But this had happened already before December and was found by the SS leadership as not effective enough as a method against Jews. I wrote that I can understand why Zionists like Bauer are so happy about this “discovery”, because if Hitler ordered the “Final Solution”, it is understood that there was no chance to save Jews and therefore the Jewish Agency leadership was not guilty of abandoning the European Jews and of sabotaging possible large scale rescue chances. As I thought that it was possible to convince Irving to stop denying the Holocaust I wrote in a polite way and stated that he was a brilliant researcher, which is a fact not noted only by myself. I thought that it was a good opening and then afterwards decided not to pursue the issue, but today I think that this was a mistake not to give it a further try. I correspond frequently e.g. with Dr. Uri Milstein, who is an absolute radical right winger, but some of his analysis of the Israeli military are brilliant and I tell him so and we lead from time to time civilized discussions. He is trying to destroy many myths around the Israeli army. His political analysis is completely rotten but his critique against the IOF is very interesting for me. I believe that Milstein, who some right wings radicals wants to see as a leader of their revolution is much more dangerous than Irving. Shraga
למה שהשמאלנים הרדיקלים בשינאתם העיוורת לציונות ולמדינת ישראל יכולים להגיע: הנה משהו שלא הייתם מאמינים שיכול להיות: שמאלנים באפולוגטיקה על היטלר לינק Yael, Eichmann said that there was a Hitler order but that he never saw it. SS General Mueller allegedly told him that there was such an order. It is a very strange situation that even somebody like Eichmann, who was very central to the “Final Solution” (he was present at the Wannsee Confernce) didn’t see a written order from Hitler. It is widely agreed that Hitler was not a very strong dictator and had no control over many things done in Germany. What I’m saying isn’t a defense for Hitler. He was a criminal even without Auschwitz. He is directly responsible for many crimes ad not only against Jews. Tony, Please bring me a single written proof and I’ll agree with you. In order to demonstrate the desperate situation of the intentionalists I’ll quote the “discovery” of a German historian called Christian Gerlach, who in 1998 found an entry in Himmler’s diary from December 18, 1941. After meeting Hitler, Himmler wrote a note saying something like “Jews are to be treated like partisans.” The whole world applauded the historian for his important “discovery” and Yehuda Bauer gave a lengthy interview about it to the Ha’aretz Supplement. I wrote a letter to the editor which angered Amnon Rubinstein. I wrote that this entry is no proof at all. First of all it doesn’t say that Hitler told Himmler so and if he did, it doesn’t talk about gassing Jews, as the partisans were shot immediately after they were caught and not gassed. But this had happened already before December and was found by the SS leadership as not effective enough as a method against Jews. I wrote that I can understand why Zionists like Bauer are so happy about this “discovery”, because if Hitler ordered the “Final Solution”, it is understood that there was no chance to save Jews and therefore the Jewish Agency leadership was not guilty of abandoning the European Jews and of sabotaging possible large scale rescue chances. As I thought that it was possible to convince Irving to stop denying the Holocaust I wrote in a polite way and stated that he was a brilliant researcher, which is a fact not noted only by myself. I thought that it was a good opening and then afterwards decided not to pursue the issue, but today I think that this was a mistake not to give it a further try. I correspond frequently e.g. with Dr. Uri Milstein, who is an absolute radical right winger, but some of his analysis of the Israeli military are brilliant and I tell him so and we lead from time to time civilized discussions. He is trying to destroy many myths around the Israeli army. His political analysis is completely rotten but his critique against the IOF is very interesting for me. I believe that Milstein, who some right wings radicals wants to see as a leader of their revolution is much more dangerous than Irving. Shraga